Trinity Refutation

๐“๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐‘๐ž๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ญ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง

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Mohamad Mostafa Nassar

Twitter:@NassarMohamadMR

Written by Br. ู…ุฏุซุฑ ุฅุณู…ุงุนูŠู„ ุฅุจู† ุฏุงู†ูŠุงู„

                               P1     The     Father         is God
                               P2     The      Son   is God
                               P3     The Holy Spirit      is God
                               P4   The Father      is not the Son
                               P5   The Father      is not the Holy Spirit
                               P6   The   Son        is not the Holy Spirit
                               P7   There is exactly one God

๐“๐ก๐ž๐ฌ๐ž ๐Ÿ• ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ๐ž๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ ๐š๐ง ๐ข๐ง๐œ๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ž๐ญโ€”๐ข๐ง ๐จ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐๐ฌ, ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐œ๐š๐ง๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐›๐ž ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฎ๐ž.

What exactly is the problem?       The basic problem is Tritheism.

If the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are God, and not each other, it logically follows that there are 3 gods.

This then calls into question how the statements are to be analysed.
The key distinction is over the phrase โ€œis Godโ€ in premises 1 to 3.
 

If โ€œis Godโ€ is taken to be an โ€œ โ€˜isโ€™ of identityโ€, then by classical identity,
     the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit would be identical to each other, which would entail Modalism.
Modalism is a heresy. Thatโ€™s something Christians will want to avoid.

Maybe itโ€™s an โ€˜isโ€™ of relative identity?


This would mean that 2 things (Father and Son)
     could be identical (to God) and yet not identical (to each other).
This violates classical identityโ€”and most people are reluctant to do so.

What about analysing โ€œis Godโ€ in terms of predication? 
Well, if each person is ascribed the quality of divinity & they are not each otherโ€”then we are back to 3 gods.
No matter how similar they are in terms of their attributes, will, actions, etc.


 

๐“๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐ฆ๐š๐ฒ ๐›๐ž ๐š๐ง๐จ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซ ๐จ๐ฉ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง. 


 

Maybe each person โ€œis Godโ€ in the sense that they are โ€œpartsโ€ of God.
This is William Lane Craigโ€™s solution in an attempt to avoid Tritheism.
However, this is clearly unorthodox Partialism, as none of the persons is said to possess the divine nature.
 

What if all 7 premises are true, and we accept that true contradictions exist?
This has recently been proposed by J.C. Beall, but involves denying the Law of Non-Contradiction,
     which most people will be reluctant to doโ€”
          most people will not be likely to reject the Law of Non-Contradiction or the Law of Identity.
 

Maybe the 7 premises are all true and they are only apparently contradictory, but not actually contradictory.
Even if we cannot tell you how or why they arenโ€™t contradictory.
This is a form of Mysterianism, which has been proposed by James Anderson.
 

This isnโ€™t technically a โ€œsolutionโ€ to the Logical Problem of the Trinity from the Classical paradigm.
Rather, it is questioning whether or not a solution is required from an epistemological standpointโ€”
               โ€œare mysteries acceptable in theology, and if so, when?โ€โ€”
How do we determine when something is actually contradictory vs. merely apparently contradictory?

๐๐ฎ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ ๐œ๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐๐ž๐ซ. 

๐’๐จ, ๐ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐›๐ซ๐ข๐ž๐Ÿ ๐ž๐ฑ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐š๐ง๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐‹๐จ๐ ๐ข๐œ๐š๐ฅ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐›๐ฅ๐ž๐ฆ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐“๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐š๐ง๐ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ข๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐ซ๐ž๐ฌ๐ฉ๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ž๐ฌ, ๐ฐ๐ž ๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐ฅ๐ž๐Ÿ๐ญ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก:

1) Modalism
2) Denying Classical Identity with respect to this problem (โ€˜isโ€™ of identity option)
3) Tritheism or Partialism (โ€˜isโ€™ of predication option)
4) Denying the Law of Non-Contradiction
5) Affirming a form of Mysterianism
     and arguing that the Logical Problem of the Trinity may be unsolvable,
          but Christians are still justified in affirming the doctrine of the Trinity.
 

Admittedly, this is a brief sketch of the complexities of the problem
     and its various solutions proposed, but I hope you find this somewhat beneficial.
 

I, myself, am not satisfied with any of the above for reasons already stated.
This problem has been around since the 4th century CE, when the doctrine was authoritatively established.
 

๐“๐š๐ค๐ž, ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ž๐ฑ๐š๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž, ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฐ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฌ๐ž๐ญ๐ฌ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ž๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ๐ž๐ฌ ๐š๐œ๐œ๐จ๐ซ๐๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐œ๐ฅ๐š๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ข๐œ๐š๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐š๐ซ๐š๐๐ข๐ ๐ฆ:

                     

P1       Adam     is a Human
P2  The Author is a Human
P3  The Reader is Human
P4       Adam     is not the Author
P5       Adam     is not the Reader
P6  The Author is not the Reader
P7  There are exactly 3 Humans


๐‘๐ž๐ ๐š๐ซ๐๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฐ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ ๐›๐ž๐ฅ๐ข๐ž๐ฏ๐ž ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐“๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ, ๐ž๐ข๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซ:

   I)                   we can know what the true belief is
   ii)                  we canโ€™t know what the true belief is                       (it is rationally unknowable)
 

if I, either:
   I.I)                we can know the true belief is not a contradiction
   I.ii)                we can know the true belief is a true contradiction          

(denying Laws of Non-Contradiction & Identity)

if I.I, either:
   I.I.I)              we know the belief is a statement of Predication
   I.I.II)             we know the belief is a statement of Identity
 

if I.I.I, either:
   I.I.I.I)           the belief is classical Predication  
   I.I.I.ii)           the belief is non-classical Predication      (special-pleading numerical identity โ€” Social-Trinitarianism [1+1+1=1])
 

if I.I.I.I, either:
   I.I.I.I.i)         the predication subsists within some other essence                                    (the belief is Partialism [โ…“+โ…“+โ…“=1])


   I.I.I.I.ii)        the predication does not subsist within some other essence                        (the belief is Tritheism     [1+1+1=3])
 

if I.I.II, either:
   I.I.II.i)          the belief is modes of Identity, mutually equative Predication 

(the belief is Modalism               [1|2|3=1])


   I.I.II.ii)         the belief special-pleads/denies the Law of Identity            (Relative Identity Trinitarianism)

In light of the Classical Laws of Logic, because of what the Trinity has historically claimed,
     leading to the Logical Problem of the Trinity, we are left with the โ€œoptionsโ€ of:

1)   (           ii,                               I.ii)       Some type of Mysterianism, or
     2)   (  I.I.I.ii,                        I.I.II.ii)            what isnโ€™t a solution at all, nor acceptable to classical logic, or
     3)   (I.I.I.I.i,       I.I.I.I.ii,       I.I.II.i)            heresies that are against the Doctrine of the Trinity.

I donโ€™t think new solutions are coming.

๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฉ๐ก๐ž๐ญ ๐‰๐ž๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐’๐จ๐ง ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐Œ๐š๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐ญ๐š๐ฎ๐ ๐ก๐ญ ๐“๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐š๐ญ ๐š๐ฅ๐ฅ.



May Allah guide us all.

Source: Br. ู…ุฏุซุฑ ุฅุณู…ุงุนูŠู„ ุฅุจู† ุฏุงู†ูŠุงู„

Allah Knows Best.

References:

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