Did Allah Embody himself to Prophet Moses in fire or tree as Christians claim to try to prove their doctrine of Incarnation?

๐ƒ๐ข๐ ๐€๐ฅ๐ฅ๐š๐ก ๐„๐ฆ๐›๐จ๐๐ฒ ๐ก๐ข๐ฆ๐ฌ๐ž๐ฅ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฉ๐ก๐ž๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ฌ๐ž๐ฌ ๐ข๐ง ๐Ÿ๐ข๐ซ๐ž ๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ซ๐ž๐ž ๐š๐ฌ ๐‚๐ก๐ซ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐š๐ง๐ฌ ๐œ๐ฅ๐š๐ข๐ฆ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ซ๐ฒ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐ฏ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ข๐ซ ๐๐จ๐œ๐ญ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ž ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ˆ๐ง๐œ๐š๐ซ๐ง๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง?

Mohamad Mostafa Nassar

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NO one has ever seen Allah Exalted He, No one, that includes angels, Prophets and anyone else. Allah Exalted he can not been seen in this world by our limited human vision. However one of the rewards in Paradise for Muslims is that Allah Exalted He will bless Muslims in Paradise by enabling them to see him. I pray to Allah to be oone of them and my parents and all Muslims. Ameen.

That means that Prophet Moses DID NOT see Allah Exalted He, but Prophet Moses spoke to Allah Exalted He, while Prophet Moses was in Sinai.

Allah Exalted He in the Glorious Holy Qur’an says:

“When Moses came at the appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he asked, โ€œMy Lord! Reveal Yourself to me so I may see You.โ€ Allah answered, โ€œYou cannot see Me! But look at the mountain. If it remains firm in its place, only then will you see Me.โ€ When his Lord appeared to the mountain, He levelled it to dust and Moses collapsed unconscious. When he recovered, he cried, โ€œGlory be to You! I turn to You in repentance and I am the first of the believers. Allah said, โ€œO Moses! I have หนalreadyหบ elevated you above all others by My messages and speech.1ย So hold firmly to what I have given you and be grateful.โ€

Quran (7:143-144)

Even the Bible states that God does not change and not son of man and one can see God and live.

“But,โ€ he said, โ€œyou cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live.โ€ Exodus 33:20

And

1 Timothy 1:17

Allah embody himself to Prophet Moses in fire or tree as Christians claim to try to prove their doctrine of Incarnation?

Was the god of Islam embodied in fire or trees?

Christians twist the meaning of the following Quranic verses Quran Chapter Taha (20:9-12) and Quran Chapter the Ant (27:7-9) to try to prove their false doctrine of Godโ€™s incarnation in the form of Prophet Jesus Christin and falsely claim that if The God of Islam was embodied in a fire or tree, therefore for God to be incarnated in the form of Prophet Jesus is not a problem.

Response:

The Biblical Evidence:

Matthew 9:3-4

John 5:24

Starting with Biblical evidence from the part corrupt Bible as a first step before bringing up the Islamic evidence is a good approach since, we Muslims know that Christians usually do not pay much to any Islamic evidence.

If Christians did pay attention to the remaining truth and evidence that still in the current part corrupt Bible. We would not be sitting here writing this article, but for the sake of Allah we are clarifying this again over and over.

Christians in their desperate attempts to prove their false doctrine of incarnation of God in the form of Prophet Jesus Christ they try to twist these two Glorious Quranic verses Quran Chapter Taha (20:9-12) and Quran Chapter the Ant (27:7-9)

1 Timothy 1 17

17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Deuteronomy 4:9-19

English Standard Version

(A)โ€œOnly take care, and (B)keep your soul diligently, lest you forget the things that your eyes have seen, and lest they depart from your heart all the days of your life. (C)Make them known to your children and your children’s childrenโ€” 10 how on (D)the day that you stood before the Lord your God at Horeb, the Lord said to me, (E)โ€˜Gather the people to me, that I may let them hear my words, (F)so that they may learn to fear (G)me all the days that they live on the earth, and that they may teach their children so.โ€™ 11 

And (H)you came near and stood at the foot of the mountain, while (I)the mountain burned with fire to the heart of heaven, wrapped in darkness, cloud, and gloom. 12 Then (J)the Lord spoke to you out of the midst of the fire.

You heard the sound of words, (K)but saw no form; (L)there was only a voice. 13 (M)And he declared to you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, that is, (N)the Ten Commandments,[a] (O)and he wrote them on two tablets of stone. 14 And (P)the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and rules, that you might do them in the land that you are going over to possess.

Idolatry Forbidden

15 (Q)โ€œTherefore watch yourselves very carefully. Since (R)you saw no form on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, 16 beware (S)lest you act corruptly (T)by making a carved image for yourselves, in the form of any figure, (U)the likeness of male or female, 17 the likeness of any animal that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air, 18 the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the water under the earth. 19 

And beware lest you raise your eyes to heaven, and when you see (V)the sun and the moon and the stars, (W)all the host of heaven, you be drawn away and bow down to them and serve them, things that the Lord your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven.

๐€๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐๐š๐ ๐š๐ง ๐†๐จ๐๐ฌ ๐‚๐š๐ฆ๐ž ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐…๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐š ๐Œ๐š๐ง ๐„๐ฑ๐œ๐ž๐ฉ๐ญ ๐ˆ๐ฌ๐ฅ๐š๐ฆ

Deuteronomy 4 Teaches:

The Lord spoke to you out of the midst, you heard the sound of the words, but saw NO IMAGE, just a voice.

And you shall watch yourselves very well, for you did not see any image on the day that the Lord spoke to you.

Lest you become corrupt and make for yourselves a graven image, the representation OF ANY FORM, the likeness of male or female

And the same Christian that thinks Islam teaches an ‘Incarnation’, says, “of course, God becomes creation, takes the form of a man like me!” with only clear statements to the contrary of his position. no wonder someone who hates such a teaching will further denigrate God by saying He must be stripped naked and bloodied.

Indeed, Islam and Muslims have been denying for centuries that God was incarnated in Jesus, because there is no evidence for it, neither from Islam nor even from the current part corrupted Bible.

Islam and Muslims also deny that God relieves himself, was beaten, humiliated, defecates, urinates, sleeps, crucified, bashed by his creation, died, buried and all of that boring blasphemous Christian doctrine, that shows no respect to Almighty God.

Islam and Muslims also deny that the Lord is a sheep with seven horns, even as an analogy. As it was mentioned in two places in the current part corrupt Bible:

Revelation 5:6

New International Version

Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits[a] of God sent out into all the earth.

Revelation 17:14

New International Version

14 They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kingsโ€”and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.โ€

Islam and Muslims also deny that the current part corrupt Bible make an example of Almighty God as Someone waking up from deep asleep due to heavy intoxication of wine.

Psalm 78:65 

King James Bible
Then the Lord awaked as one out of sleep, and like a mighty man that shouteth by reason of wine.

Islam and Muslims also deny that the current part corrupt Bible make an example of Almighty God as a worm

โ—„ Hosea 5:12 โ–บ

New Living Translation

I will destroy Israel as a moth consumes wool. I will make Judah as weak as rotten wood.

Islam and Muslims also deny that the current part corrupt Bible make an example of Almighty God as bear.

Lamentations 3:10
King James Bible
He was unto me as a bear lying in wait, and as a lion in secret places.

Islam and Muslims also deny that the current part corrupt Bible make an example of Almighty God as a smoker and the smoke or fume come out of his nose.

2 Samuel 22

The earth trembled and quaked, the foundations of the heavens[c] shook; they trembled because he was angry.Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.

๐“๐ก๐ž ๐ˆ๐ฌ๐ฅ๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐œ ๐„๐ฏ๐ข๐๐ž๐ง๐œ๐ž ๐€๐†๐€๐ˆ๐๐’๐“ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ข๐ง๐œ๐š๐ซ๐ง๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐จ๐ซ ๐ž๐ฆ๐›๐จ๐๐ข๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐€๐ฅ๐ฅ๐š๐ก ๐„๐ฑ๐š๐ฅ๐ญ๐ž๐ ๐‡๐ž.

Let us quote the Quranic verses the Christians misquote and misinterpret as usual:

First:

โ€œHas the story of Moses reached thee? Behold, he saw a fire: So, he said to his family, “Tarry ye; I perceive a fire; perhaps I can bring you some burning brand therefrom or find some guidance at the fire. But when he came to the fire, a voice was heard: “O Moses! “Verily I am thy Lord! therefore (in My presence) put off thy shoes: thou art in the sacred valley Tuwa.โ€ Quran Chapter Taha (20:9-12)

Second:

โ€œBehold! Moses said to his family: “I perceive a fire; soon will I bring you from there some information, or I will bring you a burning brand to light our fuel, that ye may warm yourselves. But when he came to the (fire), a voice was heard: “Blessed are those in the fire and those around: and glory to Allah, the Lord of the worlds. “O Moses! verily, I am Allah, the exalted in might, the wise!โ€ Quran Chapter the Ant (27:7-9)

In regard to Quran Chapter Taha (20:9-12) There is NOTHING in the whole Noble Qurโ€™an that God was incarnate in a fire or a tree, and if that came in some interpretation or Clarification of the Noble Quran, we would never accept that; Because we do not believe in everything that came in the books of interpretation, and we do not believe that the Quran Commentator or the person who clarify the Quranic verses in any of the Quran Clarifying books are infallible or inspired by God.

Therefore, hypothetically IF anyone who clarified the Glorious Holy Quran claimed that those verses meant that Allah Exalted, He was embodied or incarnated to Prophet Moses then that person has made huge gross mistake that needs to be rectified immediately.

Any of the Noble Quranic verse where Allah Exalted, he spoke to Prophet Moses, such speech happened while Allah Exalted was/is above His throne that is above heavens as he still is.

Allah Exalted He, never ever spoke from fire or a tree; because there is no evidence for that, nor any evidence from the Authentic tradition= Sunnah of our beloved Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him or from the apparent meaning of the Glorious Holy Quran.

In Islam Religious Opinions are made by Following the True teachings of the Glorious Holy Quran and Authentic teachings of our beloved Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him WITH THE UNDERSTANDING of his companions in the first three centuries after the Prophet as the Prophet himself recommended this to us.

AND the Vast Majority of Sunni Muslim Scholars Conscious agreement. Anyone else who might come up with an odd opinion would be rejected unless abide by the above-mentioned terms.

In Islam when ANYONE claim something they MUST Reference it and Provide TRACABLE AUTHENTIC EVIDENCE Goes back directly to Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him AND his Companions – REGARDLESS of the Name of the Muslim Scholar EVEN if he is the Famous ibn Kathir who is a Famous Quran Commentator

The Only Infallible in delivering the message of Islam to us is our Beloved Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him- EVERYONE ELSE can make religious mistakes which again we have the benchmark = The Glorious Quran and AUTHENTIC SUNNAH=Traditions of Prophet Muhammed again by the UNDERSTANDING of His Companions and the AGREEMENT of the VAST Majority of Scholars –

For Example:

๐ˆ๐›๐ง ๐Š๐š๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ซ ๐๐š๐ซ๐ญ๐ข๐š๐ฅ ๐„๐ซ๐ซ๐จ๐ซ ๐š๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ“๐ŸŽ๐ŸŽ-๐ฒ๐ž๐š๐ซ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐š๐ง๐œ๐ž ๐ฐ๐ก๐ž๐ง ๐œ๐ฅ๐š๐ซ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐‚๐ฅ๐š๐ซ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ข๐œ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐š๐ง (๐Ÿ๐Ÿ‘:๐Ÿ)

In the above-mentioned Quran Chapter Taha (20:9-12) We find that Allah Exalted He, spoke to Prophet Moses when he approached the fire through which he thought it would warm or help him find a guide for the roads, such as lighting and other things… Allah Exalted He spoke to him from the sky and explained to him that Prophet Moses was in the holy and pure valley

So, Allah Exalted He commanded Prophet Moses to take off his shoes for the purity of the place, as we Muslims take off our shoes when we enter the mosque to pray.

๐ˆ๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐š๐ฅ-๐“๐š๐Ÿ๐ฌ๐ข๐ซ ๐š๐ฅ-๐Œ๐ฎ๐ฒ๐š๐ฌ๐ฌ๐š๐ซ= ๐„๐š๐ฌ๐ฒ ๐œ๐ฅ๐š๐ซ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ข๐œ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐๐จ๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐š๐ง=๐“๐š๐Ÿ๐ข๐ฌ๐ซ:

When Prophet Moses saw in the night a burning fire, he said to his family: Wait, I have seen a fire, perhaps I will come to you from it with a torch to warm you with, and kindle another fire with it, or I will find a guide who shows us the way.

When Moses came to that fire, Allah Exalted He, called him, O Moses, I am your Lord, so take off your sandals, for you are now in the valley of Tawa, which you have blessed, and this is in preparation for conversing with his Lord. I chose you, Moses, for my message, so listen to what is revealed to you from me.

Regarding Quran Chapter the Ant (27:7-9) It became clear to its reader that Moses thought that through the fire he would find a guide for the roads such as illumination… So, Allah spoke to him from the sky with words that belittle his majesty. Allah Exalted He said to Prophet Moses: [“Blessed are those in the fire and those around: and glory to Allah, the Lord of the worlds) Quran Chapter the Ant (27:8).

Meaning: bless this pure and holy place (in which there is fire) and those around it (you, as well as the angels surrounding you.

๐€๐ ๐š๐ข๐ง, ๐ˆ๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐š๐ฅ-๐“๐š๐Ÿ๐ฌ๐ข๐ซ ๐š๐ฅ-๐Œ๐ฎ๐ฒ๐š๐ฌ๐ฌ๐š๐ซ= ๐„๐š๐ฌ๐ฒ ๐œ๐ฅ๐š๐ซ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ข๐œ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐๐จ๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐š๐ง=๐“๐š๐Ÿ๐ข๐ฌ๐ซ:

When Moses came to the fire, Allah called him and told him that this is a place that Allah sanctified and blessed, so he made it a place to speak to Moses and to send him, and that Allah blessed those in the fire and those around it from the angels, and to exalt Allah, the Lord of creation, from what is not worthy of him. O Moses, it is I, the only God worthy of worship, the Mighty, the victorious in my vengeance against my enemies, the wise in the management of my creation.

Accordingly, it became crystal clear to us through the foregoing: that Allah did not incarnate either in a fire or a tree, rather Allah spoke to Prophet Moses words befitting his majesty and perfection in a way that we do not know.

๐๐จ๐ฐ ๐ฅ๐ž๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐†๐ฅ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐‡๐จ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐š๐ง ๐ญ๐ž๐š๐œ๐ก ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐š๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐€๐ฅ๐ฅ๐š๐ก ๐„๐ฑ๐š๐ฅ๐ญ๐ž๐ ๐‡๐ž:

Quran Chapter the Sincerity (112)

Quran Chapter the Sincerity (112)

The Verse of the Throne Quran (2:255)

The Verse of the Throne Quran (2:255)

๐‹๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐จ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ซ ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ” ๐†๐จ๐๐ฌ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐๐ข๐Ÿ๐Ÿ๐ž๐ซ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐ซ๐ž๐ฅ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐›๐ž๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ž ๐‚๐ก๐ซ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐š๐ง๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐ก๐จ ๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐š๐ฅ๐ฌ๐จ ๐ฆ๐š๐ง๐ข๐Ÿ๐ž๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐Œ๐ž๐ง & ๐๐ข๐ž๐ ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ข๐ซ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ฌ.

((1)) Thulis of Egypt, 1700 B. C.

((2)) Krishna of India, 1200 B.C.

((3)) Crite of Chaldea, 1200 B.C.

((4)) Atys of Phrygia, 1170 B.C.

((5)) Thammuz or Tammuz of Syria, 1160 B.C.

((6)) Hesus or Eros 834 B.C.

((7)) Bali of Orissa, 725 B.C.

((8)) Indra of Thibet (Tibet), 725 B.C.

((9)) Iao of Nepaul (Nepal), 622 B.C.

((10)) Buddha Sakia (Muni) of India, 600 B.C.

((11)) Mitra (Mithra) of Persia, 600 B.C.

((12)) Alcestos of Euripides, 600 B.C.

((13)) Quezalcoatl of Mexico, 587 B.C.

((14)) Wittoba of the Bilingonese, 552 B.C.[12]

((15)) Prometheus or ร†schylus of Caucasus, 547 B.C.

((16)) Quirinus of Rome, 506 B.C.

Allah knows Best

References

Answering those who say that Allah is incarnate among His creation โ€“ Imam Ibn Baz

Godโ€™s Incarnation in Ancient Pagan Religions

God is not a son of man- Reincarnation as a blasphemous belief

Prophet Muhammed got scared and shocked in Cave Hira, how to respond?

Christians attempt to twist the meaning of many Quranic verses to justify their own corrupt faith of manifestation of God in the form of Jesus.

THE MYTH OF GOD INCARNATE

Is it possible to see Allah in this world?

Where is Allah exalted He?

Paul the False Apostle of Satan