What about John 8:1-11?
Does it really justify fornication, adultery and pornography as many Christians believe?
The sections of this article are:
– What about John 8:1-11?
– Most Christians don’t consider those who divorce and marry again as
– The Bible is contradicting itself regarding adultery.
– Rebuttal to the Christian “Answering Islam” team regarding the
“homosexuality” lie in Islam.
Please be advised that I added a rebuttal section toward the end of this article.
Let us look at John 8:1-11:1But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
2At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
3The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery.
They made her stand before the group4and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
5In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?”
6They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.7
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.”
8Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
9At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.
10Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
11″No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”
Many Christians use these verses to justify fornication and pornography. We all know well that the Bible contains the most disgusting Graphic X-Rated Pornography. And the use of John 8:1-11 does indeed raise a great concern to Morals and Ethics.
For one thing, it is the biggest mistake for the citizens of the Christian Whoredom to use John 8:1-11 as an excuse for the sexual sins they commit against GOD Almighty. When Jesus peace be upon him refused to stone the woman, HE ACTUALLY REFUSED TO BE A HYPOCRITE!
Have he ordered the stoning of the woman, he would have been indeed a hypocrite, because people in charge of authority back then were not following anything in the Law properly. He even called them “hypocrites” in several occasions; see Matthew 6:2, 5, 16, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, 15, 23, 25, 27, 29, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6 and Luke 13:15 in the Bible.
So why punish the weakest citizen and leave the cause of the corruption?! That was the Message that Jesus peace be upon him gave to the people back then. Notice that John 8:6 clearly says “They were using this question as a trap”, which clearly means that the situation of John 8:1-11 was no more than a trap to make Jesus peace be upon him make a mistake.
That’s why HE DIDN’T ALLOW THEM TO OUT SMART HIM AND FORCE HIM TO GIVE ANY JUDGMENT AGAINST THE WOMAN. Jesus peace be upon him didn’t in anyway nullify the Laws of GOD Almighty regarding punishment for adultery.
Keep in mind that Jesus spoke highly of the Old Testament’s Law:
Jesus orders Christians to follow the Old Testament’s laws: “Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)” It is quite clear from these verses from the New Testament that Jesus peace be upon him did honor the Old Testament and did say that every single “letter” of it has to be honored, followed and fulfilled.
“Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: ‘The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.’ (Matthew 23:1-3)”
We clearly see in these verses that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers to not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the Law (the Jewish Rabies) were following it.
Most Christians don’t consider those who divorce and marry again as committing adultery. Some Christians don’t consider fornication as a sin in the Bibles:
Let’s look at the following examples from the Bibles:
Mark 10:11 “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her.”
Mark 10:12 “And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.“
More than 50% of Western Christians are divorced. Most of them have second marriages already, and they go to churches and act normally. They never consider their second or third marriages as invalid marriages. They never consider their lives with their new spouses as “adultery”. The ones who never marry again after their first marriage, they go and live with their boy-friends or girl-friends as if they were married.
If you have absolutely no problem with fornication or adultery because of your mis-interpretation of John 8:1-11, then tell me, how is your Bible then supposed to stop some one from sleeping with his own mother, sister or father’s former wife?
Since we are all humans (i.e. sinners), then using your dubious interpretation of John 8:1-11, then no one should be prevented!
Also, how is your Bible then supposed to prevent an uncle from sleeping with his own niece or nephew?
How is your Bible supposed to prevent men from marrying other men and women from marrying other women? Oh, wait, doesn’t this already exist among Christians in the State of California, USA? The Christian men over there are allowed to marry other Christian men and the Christian women are allowed to marry other Christian women. They even have their Gays and Lesbians Churches.
Important Note: If what’s right and what’s wrong is determined by our society only and not by the Bible, then what is the use and the point of having the Bible then?
Is this a fair question?
Where do you draw the boundaries for sinning in the Pornographic Bible, to help the Righteous be guided and given the proper directions to remain straight and not be led astray in the Christian Whoredom?
Why Some Do some Muslims Calls Americans and Westerners “Great Satan”?
A1: The Western societies, in general, are societies that are notorious in sexual sinning, and drug and alcohol addictions. Even on TV, just about everything revolves around sex. And the very clothes that people wear also emphasis sexuality. Plus, people get nude and almost-nude in swimming at the beaches and in summer time. Not to mention homosexuality, even though this is the least of the Western societies sinning.
Also, kids at young age lose their virginities by the wholesale. We also see on TV shows, such as Jerry Springer and others, topics that are too low and too sexual, such as “I am sleeping with my son” or “I’ll have sex with you for a pizza”, etc… We also see on TV the college students during spring break doing countless sexual lewdness in the open without any shame.
What else beside “Satanic Societies”, or “Great Satan” would you call the West? Ironically also, the Bible does condone pornography. See the praised Bible-verses of his girlfriend’s vagina and breasts tasting “like wine”, and that she wished if her boyfriend was her brother, was nursed from her “mother’s breast”, so that she wouldn’t have to take him home in secret:
95% of Americans had premarital sex according to a new study!
As this site has successfully proven – through Allah Almighty’s Grace and Will – that the Bible is the real cause and problem for the deterioration of morality, especially when it comes to sex, among Christians world-wide, because it is a sick pornographic book that contains overwhelming amount of graphic pornography in it,
along with its singings and praising of how women’s vaginas and breasts literally taste like “wine,” the following “reality check” further proves and enforces our claims and proofs about the gospel of porn being the real cause for the whoredom and prostitution that Christians had been historically living in, and continue to live in world-wide.
It is quite obvious that where ever there are Christian-dominated societies, there is always a great deal of illegal sex, boyfriend-girlfriend sexual relationships, bikinis, mini-skirts and other sexually arousing clothes, lust, pornography (on the internet and on TV), homosexuality, sodomy, drugs, alcohol, bastard children (children born out of wedlock), and so on….
You can bet your bottom dollar that these are the natural results and outcomes that the Christian societies breed. But why are they always like that? Why do they strive and thrive on being whores? The answer again lies in their gospel of porn, the book of women’s vaginas and breasts literally taste like “wine”.
Have they not gotten confusing teachings and explicit pornography from their bible, they would’ve been much better. But because they follow a man-altered and man-made corrupt book that contains ample contradictions, mixed signals, and violations to GOD Almighty’s Divine Moral Code, they and their churches see no problem in the things that I just mentioned. On the contrary and most ironically, they now have homosexual churches.
Reality check: 95 percent of Americans had premarital sex
POSTED: 8:42 p.m. EST, December 20, 2006
NEW YORK (AP) — More than nine out of 10 Americans, men and women alike, have had premarital sex, according to a new study. The high rates extend even to women born in the 1940s, challenging perceptions that people were more chaste in the past.
“This is reality-check research,” said the study’s author, Lawrence Finer. “Premarital sex is normal behavior for the vast majority of Americans, and has been for decades.”
The study, examining how sexual behavior before marriage has changed over time, was based on interviews conducted with more than 38,000 people — about 33,000 of them women — in 1982, 1988, 1995 and 2002 for the federal National Survey of Family Growth. According to Finer’s analysis, 99 percent of the respondents had had sex by age 44, and 95 percent had done so before marriage.
“The data clearly show that the majority of older teens and adults have already had sex before marriage, which calls into question the federal government’s funding of abstinence-only-until-marriage programs for 12- to 29-year-olds,” Finer said.
Most Americans Have Had Premarital Sex
Tuesday, December 19, 2006
NEW YORK — More than nine out of 10 Americans, men and women alike, have had premarital sex, according to a new study. The high rates extend even to women born in the 1940s, challenging perceptions that people were more chaste in the past.
“This is reality-check research,” said the study’s author, Lawrence Finer. “Premarital sex is normal behavior for the vast majority of Americans, and has been for decades.”
Latest Study: 1 in 4 Christian teen girls has an STD – More Christian profanity exposed world-wide!
When it comes to expertise in pornography, homosexuality, fornication, adultery, open lewdness where 99% of the nakedness is exposed through bikinis and other clothes, drugs, alcohol, violence, high divorce rates, children born out of wedlock (bastards), and the endless other immoralities, christians are the masters. The thing that is quite eye-catching in all of this, though, is that it is not only the christian adults who are the professional whores in their world, but amazingly, even their children are equal in statistics.
So not only the American christians are unquestionably so proud of fornication, cum-sucking and cum-licking so much that it is overwhelmingly accepted and practiced in their pornified culture, but as the latest study have also exposed, even their little children are experts in whoredom –
so bad that their sexuality caused for millions upon millions of them to catch Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs), which also include AIDS. It of course goes without question that those among them who don’t have STDs are still not virgins as more than 95% of their entire society have had premarital sex.
By the way, the remaining 5% are mixed between Muslims and other minorities. This means that almost 100% of all Christians in the USA are guilty of fornication.
Having said all of that, and having established the solid Truth about christianity being guilty of breeding humanity’s biggest numbers in profanity and immorality due to its confusions and absurdities that throw its followers off into the absolute darkness and make them top candidates for blasphemy and easy preys to giving in into even the smallest temptations, let us now look at what www.CNN.com has to say about the children of whoredom.
Study: 1 in 4 teen girls has an STD
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) — At least one in four teenage girls nationwide has a sexually transmitted disease, or more than 3 million teens, according to the first study of its kind in this age group.
A virus that causes cervical cancer is by far the most common sexually transmitted infection in teen girls aged 14 to 19, while the highest overall prevalence is among black girls — nearly half the blacks studied had at least one STD. That rate compared with 20 percent among both whites and Mexican-American teens, the study from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found.
About half of the girls acknowledged having sex; among them, the rate was 40 percent. While some teens define sex as only intercourse, other types of intimate behavior including oral sex can spread some infections.
For many, the numbers most likely seem “overwhelming because you’re talking about nearly half of the sexually experienced teens at any one time having evidence of an STD,” said Dr. Margaret Blythe, an adolescent medicine specialist at Indiana University School of Medicine and head of the American Academy of Pediatrics’ committee on adolescence.
But the study highlights what many doctors who treat teens see every day, Blythe said.
Dr. John Douglas, director of the CDC’s division of STD prevention, said the results are the first to examine the combined national prevalence of common sexually transmitted diseases among adolescent girls. He said the data, from 2003-04, probably reflect current rates of infection.
“High STD rates among young women, particularly African-American young women, are clear signs that we must continue developing ways to reach those most at risk,” Douglas said.
The CDC’s Dr. Kevin Fenton said given that STDs can cause infertility and cervical cancer in women, “screening, vaccination and other prevention strategies for sexually active women are among our highest public health priorities.”
The study by CDC researcher Dr. Sara Forhan is an analysis of nationally representative data on 838 girls who participated in a 2003-04 government health survey. Teens were tested for four infections: human papillomavirus, or HPV, which can cause cervical cancer and affected 18 percent of girls studied; chlamydia, which affected 4 percent; trichomoniasis, 2.5 percent; and herpes simplex virus, 2 percent.
Blythe said the results are similar to previous studies examining rates of those diseases individually.
The results were prepared for release Tuesday at a CDC conference in Chicago on preventing sexually transmitted diseases.
HPV can cause genital warts but often has no symptoms. A vaccine targeting several HPV strains recently became available, but Douglas said it likely has not yet had much impact on HPV prevalence rates in teen girls.
Chlamydia and trichomoniasis can be treated with antibiotics. The CDC recommends annual chlamydia screening for all sexually active women under age 25. It also recommends the three-dose HPV vaccine for girls aged 11-12 years, and catch-up shots for females aged 13 to 26.
The American Academy of Pediatrics has similar recommendations.
Douglas said screening tests are underused in part because many teens don’t think they’re at risk, but also, some doctors mistakenly think, ‘”Sexually transmitted diseases don’t happen to the kinds of patients I see.”‘
Blythe said some doctors also are reluctant to discuss STDs with teen patients or offer screening because of confidentiality concerns, knowing parents would have to be told of the results.
The American Academy of Pediatrics supports confidential teen screening, she said.
Why are Christians so notorious in sinning throughout the world? What is the real secret behind it?
As the latest devastating and quite embarrassing reality check study about premarital sex in the United States of America have revealed, 95% of all Americans had premarital sex! Now of course, one must take into consideration that out of the 250 million Americans, there are around 12 to 15 million Muslims, which puts them around the 5% percentile. This means that almost 100% of the Jews and Christians in the US had sex before marriage!
So why is that? What is it about Christians that makes them so noticeably attracted to pornography, sex, sodomy, homosexuality, lust, drugs, alcohol (thousands die from fatal “drinking and driving” accidents every year), bikinis where 99% of the woman’s nakedness is fully exposed, inappropriate clothes, immoral TV and media (their white and black-race music is all about love and sex), violence, gangs, thugs and so on? Why is it that where ever there are Christian dominated societies, these evil things are always at their PRIME?
I’ve debated Christians long and hard on this subject before, and even demonstrated to them that their bible sings praises and glories about women’s vaginas and breasts tasting like “wine”, hence it is a book that promotes pornography, but they still insist that Christianity does not promote these things and that it is man that always falls short from the Glory and Will of GOD Almighty. But non-Christians throughout history and throughout the world, including pagans, all combined aren’t even close to the Christians when it comes to these evil things!! And in Islam, we don’t really fall that short from the Glory and Will of GOD Almighty. A Muslim who lives in an Islamic atmosphere is completely ignorant about these things!
After long and hard discussions with Christians, and after giving much thought into this subject, I think I have finally reached the real and main reason as to why these polytheist trinitarian pagans and infidels are so big and attracted and dying for doing the evil things that I mentioned above. You see, in the past my main argument was simply this:
1- The Bible contains ample pornography in it.
2- The Bible contains ample mixed signals and confusing messages about morality, in it, that the Christian reader can not draw the lines from them about what is sin and what is not, especially when it comes to things that are socially and widely accepted such as wearing bikinis, drinking alcohol, taking drugs, and going to bars and personally promoting evil and mischief in the society by supporting these things in wealth and in person (by physically being there).
3- The Bible contains countless contradictions and corruption both in text and conflicts with confirmed history, that no sane person would take it seriously especially when his sexual, alcoholic and/or drugs urge is at its highest peak! By the way, ironically, even the Bible’s own theologians say that the Bible contains ample “fairy tales,” “fictions,” “fables” and “contradictions“:
Christians are lost because they have no Truth to follow; only men’s books. Islam is the real solution to their immoralities and problems.
Therefore, embrace Islam and you will be saved!
Glorified incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornications:
Song of Songs 8:1-3
1. Oh, I wish you were my brother, who nursed at my mother’s breasts. Then I could kiss you no matter who was watching, and no one would criticize me.
2 I would bring you to my childhood home, and there you would teach me. I would give you spiced wine to drink, my sweet pomegranate wine.
3 Your left arm would be under my head, and your right arm would embrace me.”my sweet pomegranate wine” is her vagina’s wet and cum along with her virginity’s blood (audio clip). He did say that her vagina and breasts taste like “wine” (Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9).
Song of Solomon 3:4
Then scarcely had I left them when I found my love! I caught and held him tightly, then I brought him to my mother’s house, intomy mother’s bed, where I had been conceived.
Song of Solomon 7:10-12
10 I am my lover’s, and he claims me as his own.
11 Come, my love, let us go out to the fields and spend the night among the wildflowers.
12 Let us get up early and go to the vineyards to see if the grapevines have budded, if the blossoms have opened, and if the pomegranates have bloomed. There I will give you my love.
Little sister & mom’s bed:
Song of Songs 8:8-9
8 We have a little sister, and her breasts are not yet grown. What shall we do for our sister on the day she is spoken for?
Song of Songs 8:8
8 Our sister is little, and hath no breasts. What shall we do to our sister in the day when she is to be spoken to?
What shall you (plural) do with your little sister and her little breasts? Let me guess:
Deflower her in your mentioned mother’s bed?
His sister’s vagina tasted like “wine”: AUDIO clip. (Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9). The Bible praises, and even promotes, incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend fornications: . Notice “no one would criticize me” (Song of Songs 8:1), above. A husband and wife, or even a brother and sister, would not be criticized if people saw them walking to their home.
Clearly, this is not a husband and wife relationship. And this is the pile of dung that Jews and Christians uphold as the Holy Word of GOD Almighty??
Bride is not wife:
In the Middle East, there is no “boyfriend” and “girlfriend”. If two are spoken of, or if two fall in love and want to get married, then the guy would call her his bride. This is close enough to a fiancée. So in this gospel of porn, when he calls her his “bride”, he’s not calling her his wife as the barking sodomized-by-their-priests proclaim.
It’s a relationship between a boyfriend and a girlfriend. “Bride” is a Semitic language metaphor. In this gospel of porn, it is referring to his girlfriend. In the chaste world of Islam, a wife is one who had sexual intercourse with her husband. She now changed from being a bride to a wife. A bride has not yet had sex with her groom. They have not yet married.
Song of Songs 4:8-12
8 Come with me from Lebanon, my bride, come with me from Lebanon. Descend from the crest of Amana, from the top of Senir, the summit of Hermon, from the lions’ dens and the mountain haunts of the leopards.
9 You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace.
10 How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your perfume than any spice!
11 Your lips drop sweetness as the honeycomb, my bride; milk and honey are under your tongue. The fragrance of your garments is like that of Lebanon.
12 You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride; you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain.
Visit the following X-Rated pornography in the Bible article to see ample verses that thoroughly demonstrate that they were incestuous-like boyfriend-girlfriend
If it’s ok in Christianity to have sex before marriage, ok to live with someone without marriage (like boyfriend or girlfriend), ok to have anal sex with the same gender (see www.godlovesfags.com and see the thousands of Christians who support them through their guest book) or the other gender, ok for the brother to sleep with his sister, ok for people to expose most of their bodies (by wearing bikinis for instance), ok to spread wickedness among society, then:
WHAT’S NOT OK TO DO THEN????!!!! AND WHY DID GOD DROWN TO DEATH THE PEOPLE OF LOTT AND NOAH THEN? DIDN’T THEY DO THE SAME EXACT THING AS THE CHRISTIANS ARE DOING TODAY FROM SODOMY, AND ILLEGAL SEX WITHOUT MARRIAGE??!!
The Bible is contradicting itself regarding adultery:
For those Christians who think that John 8:1-11 is a justification to their Whoredom (i.e., committing illegal sex openly and freely as mentioned above), then let me tell you that your Bible is ambiguous, self-contradicting and unclear.
Let’s assume for a second and go along with their arguments that John 8:1-11 indeed justifies illegal sex, then what about the following verse that clearly contradicts it?
Jesus killed the adulteress’ children:
“So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds. (From the NIV Bible, Revelation 2:22-23)”
All what the woman was doing is committing adultery, which is something very common among most Christians in the West today anyway with their “boyfriend-girlfriend living together” to “one night stand” to “having sex with his date or girlfriend”, etc… as clearly mentioned above.
Of course Adultery is punishable in Islam. But I wonder why did Jesus kill the woman’s innocent children? What did they do? All this to prove something to the Churches?! I thought you should love your enemies and forgive them! It’s not like the woman had killed anybody!! Let alone her children didn’t have any part of Jesus and their mother! There is no record in the Bible of these children committing any crimes or sins!
The Bible, with all due respect to Christians, is ridiculously ambiguous and self-contradicting! There is always room for finding excuses for wickedness as some extreme Christians do such as the Homosexuals and the Sexually Liberated. There is no solid ground for anything in the Bible. When you think you found an answer for a question or an issue, you can almost always find a contradiction or conflicting verse that nullifies it.